Goudsmit & Goldschmidt -- a geneasequel - Person Sheet
Goudsmit & Goldschmidt -- a geneasequel - Person Sheet
NameJoël b’ Salomon Goudsmit 
Birth21 Apr 1825, Deventer
OccupationSigarenfabrikant in London (1863)
FatherSalomon b’ Levi Goudsmit (1787-1861)
MotherAleida/ Leentje b’ Abraham van Raalte (1801->1865)
Notes for Joël b’ Salomon Goudsmit
married to Hannah Samuels (born abt 1832 in London)
1861 Census: England London Whitechappel, Little Aliestreet — mentioned with his wife Hannah and 2 children, Henry (age 2) and Salomon (age 1) [both not matching with later mentions, seemingly died as infants] and also with his brother Abraham (age 26) — cf
29.9.1863 Roterdam BR Goudscheweg 594, coming from London
[no further info in BR Rotterdam about him and his family. But it is certain that they went abroad again - via London to New York]
1870 Census: USA New York City, Ward 10 — mentioned without his wife Hannah, but with a Margaret Goldsmith (age 32, b. Holland) [his 2nd wife? or his sister Grietje, with wrongly estimated age?] and 4 children: Elisabeth (age 9), Abraham (age 7), Louisa (age 6) and Lizzie (age 2) [the ages of the first 3 are matching very well, allthough the birthdays of all of them are wrongly stated as New York] [NB: Margaret may also be his youngest daughter (correct age 1, born in London) - cf “Family Search”]
1873/5 New york City Directories: “Goldsmith Joel, segars, 228 E. 80th [1875]”
children [most deduced via “Family Search” website — to be confirmed in due time]:
# Elisabeth/ Lizzie? b’ Joël Goudsmit (b’.25.9.1861 London, d. 26.7.1899 New York), [? married to Moses Henry Landman (b. abt 1855 in USA) — cf contradictory dates in “Family Search” website]
# Abraham b’ Joël Goudsmit (b. 8.4.1863 London), married (20.1.1883 Manhattan New York) to Sarah da Silva (b. 1861 NewYork, daughter of Moses da Silva & Rachel Barrett. and married 2nd (3.4.1922, Manhattan New York) to Sadie Beisel (b. 1885 Allentown, Pa) daughter of Milton Beisel & Dora Keck — he died 27.9.1829 Brooklyn, Kings, NewYork. [cf “Family search”]
# Louisa / Lucy b’ Joël Goudsmit (b. 15.10.1864 Rotterdam), married (5.12.1886 Manhattan New York) to Daniel Weber (b. 1860 Berlin Germany) son of Joseph Weber & Rosa Japhet
# Margaret (b. 4.4.1869 London, d. 15.4.1934 Manhattan NewYork, widow of Nathan Strauss (10.7.1871 Essex New Jersey, d. 10.7.1910, Manhattan New York) [in New York Census mentioned with totally incorrect age?!]
1861 Census: England London Whitechappel, Little Aliestreet — mentioned with his wife Hannah and 2 children, Henry (age 2) and Salomon (age 1) [both not matching with later mentions, seemingly died as infants] and also with his brother Abraham (age 26) — cf
29.9.1863 Roterdam BR Goudscheweg 594, coming from London
[no further info in BR Rotterdam about him and his family. But it is certain that they went abroad again - via London to New York]
1870 Census: USA New York City, Ward 10 — mentioned without his wife Hannah, but with a Margaret Goldsmith (age 32, b. Holland) [his 2nd wife? or his sister Grietje, with wrongly estimated age?] and 4 children: Elisabeth (age 9), Abraham (age 7), Louisa (age 6) and Lizzie (age 2) [the ages of the first 3 are matching very well, allthough the birthdays of all of them are wrongly stated as New York] [NB: Margaret may also be his youngest daughter (correct age 1, born in London) - cf “Family Search”]
1873/5 New york City Directories: “Goldsmith Joel, segars, 228 E. 80th [1875]”
children [most deduced via “Family Search” website — to be confirmed in due time]:
# Elisabeth/ Lizzie? b’ Joël Goudsmit (b’.25.9.1861 London, d. 26.7.1899 New York), [? married to Moses Henry Landman (b. abt 1855 in USA) — cf contradictory dates in “Family Search” website]
# Abraham b’ Joël Goudsmit (b. 8.4.1863 London), married (20.1.1883 Manhattan New York) to Sarah da Silva (b. 1861 NewYork, daughter of Moses da Silva & Rachel Barrett. and married 2nd (3.4.1922, Manhattan New York) to Sadie Beisel (b. 1885 Allentown, Pa) daughter of Milton Beisel & Dora Keck — he died 27.9.1829 Brooklyn, Kings, NewYork. [cf “Family search”]
# Louisa / Lucy b’ Joël Goudsmit (b. 15.10.1864 Rotterdam), married (5.12.1886 Manhattan New York) to Daniel Weber (b. 1860 Berlin Germany) son of Joseph Weber & Rosa Japhet
# Margaret (b. 4.4.1869 London, d. 15.4.1934 Manhattan NewYork, widow of Nathan Strauss (10.7.1871 Essex New Jersey, d. 10.7.1910, Manhattan New York) [in New York Census mentioned with totally incorrect age?!]